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|The Telescan Saga...
by Freak/NFA
and Deck the Ripper/NFA
with Telescan P.D.
Well! When I inadvertedly mentioned the fact that Telescan were selling
Bodyshop VIII and hadn't registered to do so I was expecting a note from
Mr. Jordan, but I didn't realise it had upset him so much!
Here's what he wrote...
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|Telescan
COMPUTER SERVICES
P.O.Box 1
Tel 0253 829292 Thornton Clevelys
Lancs FY5 1SH
NFA
Thank you for slagging off my company in your latest releases The Word 5
and Big Girls 3. Although I can appreciate your grievance I cannot by
any means find justification in the way you have done it. Yes I have
not registered Bodyshop 8 and am at fault for not doing so, it was an
oversight on my part true but a genuine one and in no way have I sought
to take advantage monetary or otherwise from any individual or group nor
have I ever done so in the past.
I have been involved with the Amiga for the past 8 years and in PD for
the past six and have mutual amicable dealings with authors, groups, PD
houses etc in that time. NFA is such a group I have had dealings with
over three to four years with various members by mail and via computer
shows usually the All Formats at the Motorcycle Museum as Birmingham.
Software has been supplied many times particularly the early Bodyshop
series and always I have shown my appreciation by supplying money, free
entrance tickets to the show and also lots of free blank disks. Packs
of 50 or 25 have been handed over several times in gratitude (Deck was
the last, 25 KAO branded). This has been abused on occasion by the odd
member but I never held a grudge. Please do not get me wrong, I am not
trying to show what a great guy I am, just stating I am no rip off
merchant and I appreciate the effort fom guys like you in the past.
I was supplied with a 2 disk version of Bodyshop 8 by another PD company
several months ago and added it to my library. I was suprised as to the
contents as some of the pictures were risque beinf naked models in
various poses. I thought NFA were being somewhat adventurous but left
it at that. Sometime later Deck phoned to sat that the official version
was on three disks and why was I selling a two disk version, so I sent
it to him and was told someone had ripped them off by putting out his
version complete with the NFA logo screen etc. He sent me the three
disk version (with no covering letter I might add) and the matter ended
there, till now.
Yes the opening intro does state you need written permission to sell but
I never personally checked the disks and yes it was a mistake on our
part. What I didn't expect was the holier that though attitude by
yourselves being the Judge and Jury in condemning me without a chance to
reply. Is a note or phone call too much to ask? Particularly from past
dealings? Deck stated on the phone when I brought this up that Freak
(aka Mr Monks?) sent out letters in the beginning bringing this to the
attention of all PD houses, where was mine? I did move addresses over
12 months ago, that might account for it, but what's done is done,
anyhow.
I was originally going to send the requested £10 until I discovered you
had downloaded your latest titles to several bulletin boards so the
damage has already been done and you could not retract anything anyway.
May I make a suggestion for the future? Think a little before you
condemn anyone and give them the right to reply before you callin the
Jury. The Amiga scene is going through a traumatic time at the moment
and it needs all the help it can get.
The Bodyshop and Fit Chix series plus all other NFA productions have now
been removed from the library. Sorry but I cannot promote titles
anymore after this sorry episode.
Yours
N.W.Jordan,
Proprietor.
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After reading this I decided I'd get in touch with Deck the Ripper to
confirm the bit about the disks, tickets and money being handed out at
the show, but before I could do so I received a letter from Deck himself
regarding Telescan.
I thought that this was the only copy of the letter but it seems that it
was also sent to Deck at Leicester, he wrote the following in his letter
which included a copy of the Telescan letter:
"I have included a letter from Norman at Telescan PD who
has the hump with us, I am very annoyed at his letter as
there are a few untruths in it. No member at any time
has had money from him, I have had about thirty free
entrance tickets to the All Formats fair from him and he
gets them for nothing. As for the disks he had a
private arrangement with a bloke called Vince, nothing
to do with the group. No member has had any perks out
of him except for the free tickets. Also he is still
selling NFA disks in his library now. I rang him three
times about registering Bodyshop v8 and he kept saying
"I'll get round to it", I think he had no intention
whatsoever of paying up as he's a tight old bugger. I
also remember another group having a similar problem
with him but I can't place who it was. "
So who do you believe? There are a few points I'd like to clear up, and
they partain to both of the above parties and myself:
From the Telescan letter
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1. Tickets for the All Formats fair are funny things, they all say
"This ticket may be Photocopied" and allows you a couple of quid
of the entrance fee, it's just a ploy to get more people through
the doors, Deck must have sent me thousands of the buggers!
2. If someone abuses your generosity you don't repeat your offer, so
if someone took advantage of these "free disks", why were they
STILL handed out?
3. How can any company (not just Telescan) possible sell something that
they haven't checked? If he'd loaded it up just once he'd have seen
the registration warnings, you can't miss them!
4. From my records (THAT sounds good, doesn't it? ;) I can say that the
letter to Telescan went out on the 4th November 1994, the 7th at the
latest, and so changing addresses 12 months ago would not have meant
missing it, especially as it went to his current P.O.Box address.
From Deck's letter
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1. Vince was a trouble-maker as I recall, so I'm not suprised to find
him mentioned somewhere.
2. Still selling NFA stuff? I didn't think he'd junk a whole line as
we know for a fact that they are good sellers, it just wouldn't make
economic sense. I still get requests for BS1 and 2!
3. Deck phoned at least three times and a letter WAS sent out (okay so
it COULD have gone missing), Norman must have seen the £10 mentioned
before realising that he's been slated - he says so in his own
letter - but still didn't bother to pay up.
4. The bit about the "Other Group" would be interesting reading, it if
was you then let us know.
This all makes jolly interesting reading, really. If Mr. Jordan was to
write us an article regarding the situation then I'd gladly include it
in the next issue, complete and unedited, then the readers of the mag
(who are the people spending the money after all!) can make up their own
minds about where they buy.
If he feels he can no longer stock NFA productions then that's his
choice, it all stems from not registering one title. I might add that
those companies who HAVE registered have received all the latest NFA
releases as soon as they were finished, often quicker than people in the
group and the Amiga scene, plus we are more than willing to help them in
any way possible.
DiCK
aka Freak of NFA